Im sad for his fall. It was a four hour meeting. Christian counselor and author, Leslie Vernick, took exception to Viscontis post. You know, theres, I would say, round two, but I my guess is there were lots of small rounds in there, of people being silenced and bringing charges and, and the board looking the other way. Pastor James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel filed a lawsuit this month against two ex-members and former Moody Radio host Julie Roys, accusing them of spreading false information about the . James MacDonald Suspends New Home Church Network Julie Roys September 29, 2020 Seven months after launching a Home Church Network (HcN) for those who "struggle to get to church or to stay in church," former celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, is suspending the program. To myself, I said, and do our job. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet.. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, hes a victim of defamation by an envious childand needs your money to rebuild.. I wasnt looking forward to that. *, In an email to TRR, Gregoire claimed that Viscontis view about women does not match the research. The audio recording that the elders reference was aired on popular Chicago radio personality Mancow Muller's show.Muller, once a trusted friend and confidant of MacDonald and also a member of Harvest Bible Chapel, has used his platform recently to call the pastor out on his less-than-exemplary handling of his critics. He should sell cars or computers. No one takes joy in doing this. And by that time Harvest was 30, in its 31st. Whats the point of arguing the point, you know, like, okay, youre gonna say you dont remember that part. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Come out of her, my people. When I entered my UCC church-sponsored college, I figured out why. No, Im just reporting. None of those charges were looked into. Both are true. Because again, that was one letter that never got published and the contents, other than what Ron Duitsman said in his recent video because he actually referenced that letter. I remember waking up that morning. No One Knows. And I looked at it, and I could not read the whole letter in one sitting. You can unconditionally love someone. year. And that was actually the night we went, we went into the I think we went to one oclock in the morning and actually walked through whether James McDonald was qualified as an elder. One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. In June, Visconti also posted a picture of him and his wife with James MacDonald and his wife. And I was just, it was entertaining, you know, on one level, but on the other level, just absolutely tragic. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. And there is one thing we know about Satan. It just seems that the church of the USA is a joke. So Rick was in the meeting, as were others, and they were defending saying the elders should not have the letters. I said, Sandy, Im so sorry, for what happened on my watch. Very sad situation for James and the elders as well. It was really it was a painful meeting, it was a was an eye opening meeting as well though. Hes like the whole the whole thing was about resigning. Of it could be that shes been taken in by him. So, Dan, thank you for that. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. Only Gods opinion is what counts. It does. And again, Im going from memory, but also from what Ron Duitsman recently said. I still dont understand all sides of the transgender issue, but can say 2 things: 1. As youll hear in this podcast, there was a strong push to suppress those letters by those loyal to James McDonald. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Just saying a lot of vile things. I believe the board was deceived by Satan. Its almost like he got a bit weird with elephant conference and his new ministry associations as he left the Gospel Coalition and jumped into the Prosperity group. I didnt, I didnt argue with him. Jacob Ross, all the credit card that James used for personal expenses. It was demonic. So he did that. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader. And I know it was a battle. Instead, he blocked our access to his and Generation Churchs social media accounts. And there were several of us saying, you know, looking at I Timothy 5, looking at Hebrews 13:17, which tells us that elders are going to give an account. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James McDonald? They should go to the reconciliation team. I think, how is it that we had the word of God sitting in front of us, which is pretty clear about what to do. Not all the elders had physical copies of the letters at that point. We dont know what it would look like tomorrow. There was a spirited discussion of the letters and who should be able to read the letters. The multi-campus Harvest Bible Chapel in greater Chicago along with founder James MacDonald, has slapped several former workers and independent journalist Julie Roys with a defamation lawsuit alleging the publication of false information about the church, its finances and governance that resulted in the loss of 2,000 members. But somewhere around 2008-10 his preaching changed a bit. So Im deeply grateful for their faithful support. George of course evangelicalism is [anti-Christ] fundamentalism. I did not cover my iniquity. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. I encourage you to talk to Christian doctors who are fearful of extreme under no circumstances legislation that now forces molested preteens to give birth, and makes it difficult to treat a septic And I want to help people lead the church well. I dont know how the person who gave them to me got them. And I thought, well, I got to read the letter. But I think it was And anyway, hes fired. He further claims Harvests elders crafted false accusations against him as a pure act of vindictiveness to cover the churchs looting of his former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word. I had all the letters at that point. What it really means to speak the truth in love, one post read. I had, of course, people from Harvest who had heard it, sending me sending me clips. Think Ill go preach at my cat nowhe has huge ears & better discernment than those willfully cowering in the open cage of the corporate state-church. And again, this was on the churchs dime. My husband really appreciates James McDonalds preaching against my better judgement I told him about the new messagesso we have the Advent message from his Home Church network cast to the TV I had planned to leave the room so I didnt have to watch it I have to tell you he sounds sincere (without wax) I find the whole situation so heart breaking and confusing. Ive looked back at that email thread, Ron Duitsman who was the elder board chairman, resigned that day. And Dean Butters letter came in that way as well. But as, as these excerpts of James speaking as, as James did, to so many people knew that, that this was the way he really, really spoke and who he really was. MacDonald notes in the email that about a month after the settlement, he was able to write to recipients of the email. Hi. This is not my judgment but that of his elders from HBC. We did not hurry. And you then forwarded them to the elder board. And you know, Rick Donald was one of the people. His employment is coming to an end. But for us not to act would be unbelief. He could have apologized a long time ago, but nothing publicly. I shouldnt be doing this. Charles, Dr. John Street, the head of counseling at MacArthurs The Masters University, takes a harder line. So what happened? And James, recently, in this video that he posted, said that there was an elder, in these meetings, he says, its very, very disparagingly who, who was holding his Bible and kept reading scripture. But the one letter that isnt published came from Sandy Song. Thats right. So the topic of you know, among other things, the topic of the meeting that night on the agenda was to go through the letters to look at the charges and to walk through it and decide, does he meet the qualifications of an elder? And I was still on the elder board, we shrunk the elder board that next week down to nine men. And you couldnt be accused of disseminating them to the larger public. Guard your heart and keep it diligentlyfor from it flows the content of your life. So quick to forgive and people were giving me hugs the next night. . If you find yourself unaware of And it became so obvious to be like that that was what it was. And what happened in all the backroom meetings, private conversations, and phone calls leading up to that fateful event? . And we already know the answer: the men are in charge no matter what and despite their failings and abuses. That was really wrongdoing at Harvest, would be to repent. Receive E-Devotionals and Ministry Updates. But again, reading those letters, and it does have a different impact when you read the actual letter than someone summarizes it. Julie, are you saying that you support trans mutilation/murder of pre-born children/and are against conservatives? Ostensibly, one of the assets MacDonald obtained in the arbitration settlement is the list of email addresses of former Walk in the Word supporters. https://biblehub.com/hebrew/898.htm bagad (treachery aka abuse) is used FIVE times in Malachi 2:10-16!!! I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. Again, only you and Mike Dunwoody, did that publicly. If hes ok with lies, that calls into question everything he preaches. And so I was pulling into the garage, and I knew I knew, as soon as I pulled in the garage, you know, I was, I was gonna go drive up to whatever floor and go to the meeting. I knew letters were coming to the elder board per First Timothy 5. And I remember, Julie, I was in that meeting that Tuesday night. And most of them, a number of them, Ill say, have not read any of these letters. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. Today the guys share their conversation with journalist, author, and speaker Julie Roys. That way youll never miss an episode. And there was a group and we had two prayer meetings of people who had been former elders, staff people who have gone on the record with me. But by the time we were done that night, the decision that night was two things. I feel that our beginnings, KJV or influences kept many people locked in to the Old Testament, with all of its Thou Shalt nots. One person suggested reading the New Testament first for a change and then read the Old Testament for the beginnings, the stories and allegories and basically manmade superstitions and misogynies. In 2018, Roys' journalism exposed the now-former senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) James MacDonald for his aggressive leadership style and abuse of the church's finances. Id read through everything and all the letters. Im sorry, before a so called board.removes a man of God they must first consider the fruit of his ministry. I wrote back to her, and I apologized to her. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! He knows! I dont know whether its the way way down or the way back Id have to reread the letter, but I mean, they stopped and went to the DR,. Who were all shameless self promoters. Its not being nice, polite, or inoffensive. Imagine such a thing. Judson University is shaping lives that shape the world. Had it not been for that recording, I mean, what do you think? Although as soon as, pretty much after Mancow aired it. Again, Dan was one of the elders who confronted James back in 2012, and then got excommunicated from Harvest. To donate, click here. That was you, wasnt it? And I knew that I needed to do something publicly. And they started reading scripture about the qualifications of the elders. pretty rotten.. He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. So these letters, and this is what I found really riveting about your story, is when these letters were first given, as you said, they were given to pastors, with the exception of Sandys letter that went directly to you. So he was fired. No, its not how it went down, Julie. Her articles have appeared in numerous periodicals. Prominent evangelical scholar, author, and missiologist, Ed Stetzer, is leaving his position as executive director of Wheaton Colleges The Billy Graham Center to become dean, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of, An Arizona megachurch has hired Landon MacDonald as a lead pastor, despite allegations MacDonald bullied and abused those in his care while pastoring at Harvest, It has been said, Show me a persons checkbook and I can tell you what he cares about. Social Action, 1964 James MacDonald, the, Christian actor Kirk Cameron on Monday featured disgraced pastor James MacDonald as a guest on Camerons TBN Takeaways program on biblical illiteracy. MacDonald was fired, Mark DeMoss, a man described by Christianity Today as Evangelicalisms PR Guru and a former Liberty University trustee, is apparently spending time with two men, Its been more than two years since Harvest Bible Chapel fired James MacDonald for engaging in conduct . The marriage relationship has died. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Were supposed to approve this budget, and we dont even have a line item. Right? Like, I cant believe this. He would probably be wildly successful. Who had heard it, and I remember, Julie but can say 2 things:.. Any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will deleted. Used for personal expenses foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue in your inbox of... 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