But Kelsi had lent Libby her sweater that day. If no one saw blood on him, Im guessing he had donned a covering of sorts that he could remove quickly. Maybe just coincidence but just strikes me as odd that theres all this dubious car towing going on in this small town during this time. The second is another detective in a different area of LE. Problem? Leave this man alone if you know who he is. We will refer to him from now on as Mr. X. I dont want to use his name or his initials. Thats a career-ender and I take my journalistic ethics very seriously. Its weird as Hell, but sos just about everything about this insane case. The second sketch, which LE said was actually the real killer, was the catfish used to lure Libby off Snapchat. One individual wrote about how they also believed this year was different, "Sending you all lots of love and hugs. Then he does his dirty deeds done dirt cheap with their dead bodies, posing, staging, signatures, etc. Libbys grandmother Becky Patty said Allen was the one who printed off pictures that were used at the girls funeral. Its not worth it, guys. The Delphi Killer could have been either a hebephile or a teleiophile based on the age of his victims. How about getting your moneys worth? Man, this guy is absolutely brazen. As awful as it is to think about, its reported that Libby fought like hell. I wonder if there is any way to know what Mr Xs attire was that day at the creek and in the days immediately following. It is only abnormal where it is combined with little or no attraction to adult women. Almost all of these guys have red flags like this early ion life. Im sure that if more information about this case comes out, more of the things weve been saying here for years are going to be shown to be true. Perhaps ~3% of men are primary hebephiles. So accordingly there is 4 entrances to this Monon High Bridge trail the girls started on. . The stuffed animal looks to be a Valentines stuffed animal. Why do Women allow their children to be abused and/or participate in the abuseto keep a man. This guy is absolutely brazen as all Hell, and Im giving him another year or two before his confidence is restored and he does it again. He would have been 46 when he did the Evansdale Murders, but he may have committed a sex crime between the ages of 16-26, so theres your prior earlier in life. And isnt a hike back to the cemetery where if its MrX his truck was parked. While little is known about Allen, The U.S. Sun can reveal that he is an employee of a CVS near Delphi, according to a source who requested to be anonymous. Thank God whatever his motive, it has not worked out well for him . He set up this crime scene before the murders. Does it say that anymore in the caption? WebDelphi murders update on Ron Logan: Possible suspect in Delphi murders been on police radar since the killings Who is 'anthony_shots'? I feel the abuse interpretation struck a nerve with you so I won't comment any further. Besides, who knows if he did it or not? Maybe this was why he was the one who found the bodies during the search on day 2because he knew his keys were there and needed to retrieve them before police found them first. I dont buy this timeline. There is currently a gag order imposed by the courts about the circumstances around this truck being towed. Also if Mr X were in fact our guy, might this be the reason for the mixup regarding the lost key situation? Well, ok, nowhere in that piece is that football player connected to Mr. X. I think that is just a photo of some random football player myself. I get tired of all this endless talk of DNA. }); It would seem that Mr. Xs phone pinging the CPS building means he or his phone was there at the time, but Mr. X can always say that he was elsewhere, and his phone was at his home pinging there looking for a signal. Nevertheless, Mr. Xs alibi that he was out of town, came back into town and went to the bridge for no reason, and then decided to search for the girls without knowing they were missing obviously makes no sense. As a result of this mass hysteria around the subject, the perfectly legitimate category of statutory rape (I prefer the term illegal intercourse) has been absurdly conflated with the child molestation of little girls under 13, which admittedly is a problem. Allen is being held without bond by the Indiana Department of Correction. They were younger than the teenage victims in this case, both below age 11. Rumor is there was one spent round at the scene. If Mr. X killed the Evansdale girls, we have to think again about his sexual age orientation. Theres nothing wrong with blue eyes or Pepto. pg.acq.push(function() { Allen has denied any involvement in the girls' deaths and pleaded not guilty. That is true at least of flannel shirt guy. There are too many of them anyway. Interesting point. Mr. Xs truck was in the way and was blocking in police cars. However, LE said that this mans MO was completely different from the MO used in the Evansdale murders, so he probably didnt do it. Ive also spoken with the Iowa lead detective on the Evansdale case. WebTheres a YouTube video of a guy who I guess may cover the case (never heard of him before). Nichole maybe he lost his keys during the killing of the girls and had to go back asking RL if he could search for the missing girls really searching for his keys. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('impressionViewable', function(event) { The first sketch looks like Mr. X. I was sure that Mr. M. killed those girls, as his behavior around that time was very suspicious, but now I am not so sure. I dont recall seeing it on my site but I put a lot of stuff up there. Patty still has hopes that the killer will be found. There are references below to an elaborate crime scene with posing of the girls and all sorts of crazy and unlikely objects scattered about. He may have shown evidence in his life of an abnormal interest in little girls or young teenage girls. The same questions posed above apply here too. Hmm. Marriages often seem to last a lifetime, even when they dont. pg.acq.push(function() { While investigating the murders, police released an audio recording of a male voice saying "down the hill," asking the public if they could help identify the man's voice. Keep in mind that I have not been able to verify this rumor. Except the neighborhood cameras caught her putting him in a truck all groggy and walking slow. AS law enforcement continues to probe whether Oh I see. Nobody really knows this. Mr. Xs orange truck was parked hidden in the cemetery directly above where the girls were found. Yeah, this 100%. Ive been run through the grinder for years over this rumor, and I was trying to avoid it in this post, but I have no choice but talk about it. Teenage girls are another matter, but thats not pedophilia. He seems to have many friends in the Delphi area with the whole town on his friends page. To me those two reactions seem pretty excessive, but that doesnt prove anything. }) The girls had documented some of their walk on Snapchat. the pictures are of a couple articles of clothing in the creek, looks to be libby's shoe and shirt, and a sock? Basically never happens. I have graphic artists who do that for me. The former bar owner said Eighth gradersAbby and Libbywent missing while hiking through the woods near Indiana'shistoric Monon High Bridgeon February 13, 2017. The thing is that these men are also strongly attracted to adult women. A man named Eric Alter claimed to have gotten an injunction against my blog with WordPress. I wonder if they have any thoughts on Mr X? He and his wife just moved early this year. On the other hand, Leigh Kerr did report that there is a scream on Libbys audio recording followed by a thud. His Facebook page is full of photos of little girls. Even cleaned up, you can barely hear a thing. I can think of how this scene might have unfolded: He got them to the kill zone, and he had them both on the ground with their hands behind their backs handcuffed. That may or may not be the case. Someone, possibly a friend, Mr. Z, was certain that they saw him elsewhere when the murders were committed. He put them both out of commission in seconds, and he killed both of them within a minute or two. (without being too graphic--I am referring to blood/bodies etc). Mr. X is a big fan of Harley Davidson motorcycles and an extremely avid deer hunter. I have seen photos of him with jeans and a jacket almost exactly like BGs jeans and jacket, but perhaps those are common garments among men in that area. I just find no logical reason why Mr. X would stick around the area that long and keep his truck parked there that long with cops crawling all over. The first source is from a female member of the search party who saw the crime scene and discussed it with me. I reported the other day that BG videotaped his crime. He very closely resembles BG when his face is put side by side by BGs. You and your family have touched so many." No one else knew that the girls were even missing. Thats clearly the CSI people photographing the scene. WebThe Delphi murders autopsy report remains sealed to this day, authorities say to protect the ongoing investigation. Look to be genuine. I say this because similar posing and objects were reported with the Evansdale Murders, who LE now suspects BG of committing. So high attraction to girls in this range is quite normal. This should be an important part of the investigation. This crime scene is getting seriously nuts. I believe they detained him for a couple of weeks and released him. LGs body in blue.. Chilling photos of Richard Allen, 50, and his family have come to light, including a photo of his daughter posing in what appears to be the exact location where Abby and Liberty were last seen in 2017. These men are automatically dangerous because the only way to fulfill their sexual drive is to commit a crime. Reportedly, LE has one smudged fingerprint from the crime scene. Bingo. We were also taught to source and label our sources things properly, and we had to take a semester in the libel law which was modeled on a law school course. Problem is we dont know the nature of the sex crime. He might also have been looking for the girls cell phone. I see no evidence that this is true. Hence the truck is still here. There were crime scene photos taken by a journalist that he was told to remove at the beginning. Theyre crawling all over the page. As absurd as it is women do allow this to happen. Ive spoken with her at length, and I like her a lot. Also. If we can get somebody to come forward with more information if we can get a name or at least a location of this subject that would be great., Dances with Wolves actor pleads not guilty in 'sex cult' case, Star singer La Tigresa dies from a heart attack at 89 after storied career, TikTok star, 28, is charged with child abuse after 'attack on boyfriend', Rape survivor slams Gabby Petito Utah cop over handling of her case, 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, New photos of Richard Allen, 50, have surfaced after he was reportedly taken into custody in connection to the Delphi murders, A photo of Allen's daughter appeared to be taken at the same location where Libby German and Abby Williams (pictured) were last seen alive, Allen was pictured in front of what appears to be a police sketch of the suspect, searched the Wabash River in Peru, Indiana, last month. Ms. Y said Mrs. X had made a series of very strange posts to Facebook about how she thought she had known someone all her life but it turned out she didnt know them and that this person turned out be some sort of an evil force. They clear him each time after a while, and then they simply say that he is not a suspect. Your choice, dear. FBI: We dont care about Lindsay. Conversation between FBI agent and a suspect when detaining him to get a DNA sample at an FBI office in Michigan, 2018. When I first heard that there were eyewitnesses, I had assumed he had encountered them after the murders had taken place in the timeline. She comes and gives him a ride to the tow yard where they get the car out. They see the forest not the trees. The deaths of the eighth graders went unsolved for years since there were no leads or suspects. Any idea what the heck the basis of this story is? Try not to be sensationalist, it makes you seem unstable and ridiculous. Sadistic killers get a sexual arousal just from hurting people. Below is a capture from the same area as the photos below came from. We also learned, which ought to be no surprise, that Mr. X had a rap sheet for a sex crime committed during the 1980s when he was between 16 and 26 years old. Sraddle the line between quirky and annoying - lol, true. He loves all the drama and excitement and thrill of getting away with murder right under the noses of the cops lol neener neener you cant catch me Im smarter than you stupid pigs lol. Third photo is again of the shoe, what looks like a pair of underwear and what looks like a tie die tshirt (again, if the photo is actually real). Wow, so many details I have never found before. So its very common for non-hebephiles to be on these forums. I know from case document(s) I obtained that LE is looking for photos, videos, videocameras, cameras, film, etc. The ages of the minors in that group are not known. He wrote that the mothers of the dead children were responsible for their deaths because of their behavior. Note the knife on or near Libbys shoulder in green. And I can tell you for sure she was thrashing like a fish out of water when BG was blitzkrieging her neck. BG was either smoking and leaving a smoke cloud or those are just some artifacts of the graphics software creating illusions. 1998 - 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. | All Rights Reserved. Bottom line is murderers get away with it all the time in this country, and in a number of cases, LE is pretty sure they know who did it, but they simply dont have enough evidence to take it to court. },false) Warning: What follows is horrifying information about the sexually-motivated double murders of two young teenage girls. Actually many of my best sleuths down through the years have been women. In fact, Mr. X was the leader of a young peoples Christian group. Its possible he found his keys somewhere in the woods, probably near the crime scene, during those 18 hours. Wait. See, if there were spent rounds at the crime scene, that leads me to believe that he held the girls somewhere until the cover of nightfall, where no one would be on the public trails to see or hear anything. He had his car keys. Policehave not yet released any information about the evidence that led to his arrest. . There is an old rumor going around that Mr. X touched one or more of the bodies in the neck, looking for a pulse. He couldnt keep them alive and tortured them, though he may have wanted to. He says hes going to call his wife and shes going to bring him a spare set. We have not been able to find information about his employment at any time. We really are starting to think that maybe that truck didnt just magically show up at 6:30 PM on the day of the murders. Keep in mind that none of the wild stories above from the woman searcher are confirmed yet as they comes from a single, albeit seemingly unimpeachable, source. Theyre disturbing. Theres an art to this. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. They did this to make Mr. X think they had abandoned him and were looking at a false suspect. This article contains remarks made on the internet by individual people and organizations. I cant. They are signed by two different entities. A gag order was also issued in the case, said Gull at the initial hearing. But I would think a BA in Journalism would suffice. On the other hand, strong pedophilic attraction is quite normal in men. We arent vigilantes here in America. Multiple sources, including a loved one from Libby's family, confirmed toThe U.S. Sunthat an arrest had been made, with more information set to be released at apolicepress conference on Monday. These LE guys are extremely smart and crafty. She never shows up. He also thought the murders had occult or Satanic overtones. Around 2011-2102 was when he first moved to Delphi. Just a guess. Also one of the people who saw him walking away from the crime said his face was still obscured by the white scarf, so it looks like he wore the white scarf away from the scene. We think we have something of yours. Do they have his car keys? And these arent the only two. Says she wants to represent herself in court. So now we have variations of this rumor verified at least eight times. All normal males fall into this category. Kelsi was looked at very closely by the FBI, but she was eventually cleared. The 8 and 10 year old girls fall into the pedophile category, and the 13 and 14 year old victims do fall into the hebephile category. According to Mrs. S., Mr. M dressed his two sons up in girls clothes and molested them for five years. He was searching for the girls after 6:30 PM right where they happened to be, and he happened to lose his keys while searching for them. I dont know what to say, so Ill just say (again) that Im so very sorry and I know this anniversary never gets easier. Logic tells us that it would have taken him longer to carry out these murders. So he took a knife and stabbed her in the artery in her neck, killing her. This shows they had a gun cartridge from the scene and it also shows that a shack may well have played a part in this crime. WebDelphi, Indiana: Eerie photos show teens death march Down the hill | news.com.au Australias leading news site Eerie photos capture teens death march Down the hill hitType: 'event', Problem is that while 16 year old looks fantastic, when she opens up her mouth, she sounds like a 10 year old. As for what theyd say to Allen if they talk to him. If all the items left are true and of course he would not have had them all on him on the bridge once again makes me look at the now demolished CPS building where all evidence would now be destroyed but what would have been in a old CPS buildingpossibly unwanted eft behind unloved toys dolls, stuffed animals and even sheets are possible? Abby was on the ground too, handcuffed. In addition, a number of little girls swimsuits were found in his van. The shocking news that we learned from our retired LE contact was that LE now thinks that the Delphi Murders and the Evansdale Murders are linked. All these guys have a background. If BG was parked at the cemetery why did he walked back threw the trailsafter killing the girls , so either FSG is lying about seeing BG AFTER the killing of the two girls or he seen BG before the killings..makes sense right ? I'm just not sure where this story came from and I, personally, have not seen such "outrage" at all on Reddit , Websleuths, Message boards etc. This made me feel sick! hitType: 'event', This has also been (somewhat) vindicated. These killers almost never commit sex murders of little girls. Later on he did sexual things with both bodies involving sticks and twigs. Its possible it was all a ruse so he could retrieve his keys from the kill zone. So they kill teenage girls and grown women because they both look like women. You just join the private group if you can afford it. And who wakes up at age 51 and decides to commit horrible sex murders? Because of societys morals, much of this behavior is illegal. Theres just a lot of mixed emotions.". If this crime scene is anything like what this woman describes it as, then this is shaping up to be one of the weirdest, most insane double homicides of the 21st Century. Its a BS law, often used by the FBI and other feds when they want to take someone down but they cant get anything on you. There is a report on Reddit that I am still pushing a theory that the girls were garroted. Theres no confirmation that BG was smoking a cigarette when he abducted those girls. Many killers with a normal age orientation will kill teenage girls since they look like women. In other words, destruction of evidence. WordPress never uttered one peep to me about my Delphi coverage. For everyone saying Mr. X could not possibly have done it, the people who knew these men when they were arrested recently said the same thing. Trashing Leaker, Part 2. In that case, he may collect child pornography or go to child porn sites. She didnt tell me what it was, but she did say it was so large that BG could not possibly have smuggled it to the scene when he abducted the girls because it would have been seen in the video. Heres the latest. We are one of the worlds fastest growing And perhaps this is where the references to the movie The Shack at the presser came from. I stopped at age 21 because I didnt want to go to jail. However, these experts transcribed what they thought was being said in this encounter. The grandmother of Libby German said the man arrested and accused of killing her granddaughter also was the man who printed off pictures for Libbys funeral. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. 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